March 23, 2003
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Tens of thousands of people marched down Broadway in New York on Saturday in a demonstration that extended from Herald Square to Washington Square Park.
Crowd estimates varied. New York City police officials put the number of demonstrators at 120,000, but demonstration organizers claimed 200,000.
Sixteen New York City police officers suffered minor injuries in Saturday’s demonstration after they were sprayed with an unknown substance, possibly Mace. About 90 demonstrators were arrested when they refused orders to disperse.
“We all want peace,” read one of the signs in the crowd, which included singer Patti Smith and actors Roy Scheider, Ossie Davis and Ruby Dee. Democratic Rep. Charles Rangel, a Korean war veteran, said joining the march was not a rejection of patriotism.
“We support the troops, but we do not support the president,” Rangel said.
Bravo NYC & US Congressman Rangel!
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*APPLAUSE*!!!
Pikake read this:
From Letters to the Editor, Dallas Morning News, Sunday, Feb 16
France has big stake
I read your paper daily along with the Wall Street Journal. I find a lot of talk about why France does not follow President Bush in declaring war on Iraq. The answer is the economy.
Consider the following reported by Bill Bonner of online The Daily Reckoning:
Oil contracts with Iraq:
U.S.A. – 1
France – 798
Russia – 862
China – 227
U.K. – 8
France sold $1.5 billion worth of goods to Iraq in 2002 and the French firm Total has the Easra Oil Fields locked up.
Jim Coleman, retired petroleum engineer, Dallas
Get your oil facts straight--this is not a war over oil.
And, like I've said to many people before you, it's contradictory for people to say that they support our troops, but not the war, or the president... Because the troops want to fight, and therefore if you support the troops then you support what they stand for as well. And people need to get over this "I didn't vote for him" attitude because it's been over 2 years now and they should have dealt with their attitude about it after September 11th... If you recall after September 11th George W. Bush had the highest rating any president has ever had... So, now they are all going back on their support and now saying that "I didn't vote for him". Get over yourselves... He's the president and he had two choices...
#1. Do something.
#2. Don't do something.
If he hadn't done something and Saddam Hussein did attack us, and now with the special technology that Russia and China gave to them they probably would once they perfected it, then he would be screwed because everybody would be blaming him for America being attacked by terrorists again.
But then now, let's see, he did something, and he's now being blamed for being stupid and not knowing what he's doing. I'm sorry, but he is updated every day with every single bit of information about any country that he needs to know, when you're updated every day with every single bit of information about any country that you need to know then go ahead and say that he doesn't know what he's doing.
SpookyTiffany: When the Dow hit the historic 10,000 mark, did the typical American worry that Hussein had weapons of mass destruction? Why didn't the President send 400,000 military personnel to Iraq then--if he is indeed so concerned about eradicating Hussein's regime? And since Shrub is updated, in his first days of offcie, why wasn't it priority #1 then? And it's nonsensical to think in the alleged TWELVE! years that Hussein had these weapons, you felt safe but not now. I think Bush--for political and financial reasons--has a greater reason to make Americans feel panicky.
And second of all, you shouldn't generalize such grave decisions to oversimplistic options: "do something" and "don't do something." The world repercussions will be huge. I mean, sure the news gloss over details of war because Americans can't stomach it, but remember there is no gentle way to kill. And the news media's tunnel vision might make people think war is inevitable. IMHO, dropping bombs on defenseless people is not a good reason to say "at least Shrub is 'doing something'".
Mahalo ahhyee! Sure, SpookyTiffany reads the Wall Street Journal, a VERY BIASED publication, so draws upon the manipulated numbers that are served up in reality as propaganda, to justify the Administration's actions. I already slammed Dread in that area, resulting in his turning tail & running from the truth. Like you stated, the Dow Jones Industrials were over 10k points (translate into $US dollars!) per average share BEFORE Shrub Jr's illegal appointment into the office of the President. If anyone checks the history of the US stock markets, the Dow has lost nearly 2K points ($) since his intrusion into our Administration. I have avoided making this point previously, because it is a total slap in the face of the financial world.
What are we doing with a President who has, with his degree in business management, had to be bailed out of financial bankruptcy 3 times? What are we doing with a President who has has at least 3 DUI charges in the state of Texas (all summarily dismissed, because of Daddy Shrub)?
Another thing... BECAUSE the US & UK only have 1 in the numbers SpookyTiffany quoted more states WHY this is about the oil. The Shrubs don't like that we cannot get more oil than that from Iraq (our own fault, because of the embargos impossed, & the fact that Saddam refused to stay a puppet leader, as we meant for him to be when we put him there).
You're just out to sacrifice a victim and you'd rather it be President Bush than an evil man like Saddam Hussein. That's all I'm going to say:)
If you want peace so damn badly then why are you being unpeaceful about how you handle the situation?
Unpeaceful? How so, SpookyTiffany? Because I present the evidence that speaks against the actions of our President?
Peace means not raising a hand against another. Is that what we are doing, considering that we were always deemed the 'World's Peace-Keepers' when WE invade another country, without the evidence that backs our stance in this incursion? They have yet to find any evidence of WMD. Are they now going to manufacture that evidence, to prove they are right? After all, we have stockpiles of them ourselves.
By the way, SpookyTiffany, maybe you need to see the images I have of the child with part of the head blown away, the scalp with hair draped to the side... a result of our attacks. How about the bus full of civilians, trying to get out of the way, that we blew up, targeting a bridge? Do you need to see the non-sterilized evidence of war to realize that WAR IS EVIL PERSONIFIDE? I didn't. The politicians don't want us to see this stuff, because it would mean more people turning against their war effort, at a cost of their anticipated financial gains.
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